Every new arrival wants to know if they can survive or live well in Thailand on X thousand baht a month?
It's a difficult question because each person has different needs. However, the following surveys and figures are from teachers actually working here! How much do they earn and what do they spend their money on?. And after each case study, I've added comments of my own.
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Beck
Working in Krabi Town
Monthly Earnings 33,000
Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?
I work in a Thai primary school and my salary is 33,000 baht a month
Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?
10,000 baht. I could actually save more if I didn't ever eat Western food or drink any alcohol or go out.
Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?
6,000 a month plus utilities. It's a room with a balcony and its own bathroom. its modern and clean but very small.
Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?
Transportation
Nothing because I have a friend with a bike but very occasionally I'll get a bike taxi for 20 baht
Utility bills
200 baht for water and at least 600 for electricty, depending on how much air-con i use.
Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping
Around 7,000 baht per month. Western food costs more, but sometimes I need a change from Thai food
Nightlife and drinking
1,000 baht but it depends. Some months I don't go out at all, other times I really need to.
Books, computers
E-books keep me sane, 3,000 baht-ish.
Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?
It's okay. I don't have a kitchen, so no cooking, and sometimes it can be hard to get a balanced diet. You really need a bike so you can get around easily, but then that adds to your expenses too. Some people rent houses, but they cost way more than apartments. You can get cheaper rooms than 6,000 baht, but you pay for what you get.
Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?
A good balanced meal for 80 baht but food and accomodation are more expensive here than other places in Thailand
Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?
To just survive, around 20,000 baht I would say.
Phil's analysis and comment
When I look at Beck's survey, I see a typical teacher earning a typical Thailand TEFL wage. And that's great! We need more of these figures because I'm sure the vast majority of teachers perusing these surveys and thinking of coming to teach in Thailand, will be earning this sort of dough.
Take note of some of Beck's answers. The e-books keep me sane. I need my Western food from time to time. I need to go out for some nightlife now and again. Of course you do to all three! If you can't afford to treat yourself to a night out, a hearty steak and chips or a few nice books every so often, there's just no point being here is there? You're not here to live a work and sleep existence.
I would have thought 33,000 baht in a Thai town (albeit a more expensive Thai town) would get you an OK standard of living - and that's exactly how Beck describes it.
Jay
Working in Bangkok
Monthly Earnings 57,000 - 60,000
Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?
I work at a private school in Bangkok and earn 51,000 a month from the school before tax. Also around 6,000 a month from extra classes/tutoring. So about 57,000 - 60,000 in total.
Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?
Each month I put at least 15,000 into savings.
Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?
My rent is 12,000 a month for the one-bedroom condo I live in.
Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?
Transportation
I spend about 4,000 a month on getting to and from work. I take a motorbike taxi to get around most of the time. On weekends, my better half nearly always pays for taxis so I'd say 5,000 tops.
Utility bills
Electricity and water comes to about 1,100 a month. That's with 2 air-con units / cooker / TV / games console
Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping
I don't really spend too much on food. I get a free lunch at school and normally pick up something easy to eat on the way home, or my other half brings something back from work. I'll do a 'big shop' on a weekend and spend about 1,000 baht on that. We may eat out once or twice a week also but that's about it really. So say around, 6,000 at the most.
Nightlife and drinking
I'm just about to become a father, so my nightlife at the moment is non-existent. Back in the day I raged!! I sometimes have a few beers with the guys once every few weeks and I'm partial to a couple of beers after work if that counts?
Books, computers
I spend a fortune on books about babies at the moment. Or it certainly seems that way!
Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?
Comfy. Not so much hi-so but more so-so. But getting there.
Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?
Accommodation. I am actually looking to buy a new place and it keeps crossing my mind that I could never afford a pad like this back in the UK.
Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?
I used to be on 30,000 a month before tax and I lived 'OK' on that. I had an apartment, a half stocked fridge/ice bucket and a social life. But come the end of the month I was skint. I could live on 25,000 at a push I think.
Phil's analysis and comment
Thanks Jay. 60K a month is not bad at all, certainly for a single person or as I guess in your case, someone who lives with another wage earner. But of course, you're about to become a proud father and I bet there's no amount of money you could spend on the new arrival right? Good luck with everything. I wish you well.
A plea for your kind help.
There never seems to be a shortage of teachers out there who are good enough to take part in our cost of living survey - and that's fantastic! I'm extremely grateful. Could I also get a few of you to help out with updating our region guides if possible. I would love your feedback if you are teaching outside Bangkok. Here is the list of towns and cities covered in our region guides. Please don't feel that you have to answer every question. If you just want to fill in a couple or three answers then that's an enormous help! Muchas gracias.
Rehan
Working in Bangkok
Monthly Earnings 140,000 baht
Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?
I work at a public university. My salary is 130K and I earn another 10K a month from proofreading on-line.
Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?
65-75,000 baht.
Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?
I live in a condo in downtown Bangkok in a very good location, which sets me back 22,000 a month
Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?
Transportation
I live walking distance from work so daily transportation charges are negligible. However I do travel back home to see my family (in another Asian country) every month. That usually costs around 15-20,000
Utility bills
Electricity and water, between 500-1000 baht per month. Internet is paid for by my employer.
Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping
I don't have a kitchen in my condo so end up eating out, usually street food or not expensive food - I'd say around 5,000 a month
Nightlife and drinking
I usually go out once a week with my colleagues for dinner and drinks and maybe once a week with friends. Plus when I visit my family I take them out for meals. Probably around 10,000 per month.
Books, computers
I do actually like buying gadgets and books so usually if I have money leftover after saving my target I spend it on that. Around 5,000 per month. I usually give 5-10,000 to charity, depending on how much I've left over after saving.
Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?
Excellent. I can pretty much afford to eat and buy what I want, I have enough social life, and by keeping my lifestyle modest I can save for the future.
Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?
The food. You can get food at whatever price point you want here. Fresh ingredients can be expensive though so it probably works out cheaper that I don't cook. Taxis are also really cheap compared to other countries even Asian ones.
Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?
I think foreigners can live in Bangkok very comfortably on 50,000 baht a month. Below that, you could probably still do OK if you found a cheap place to live.
Phil's analysis and comment
I'll always tip my hat to someone who lives well within their means. Someone who earns a very decent wage but still insists on living a modest lifestyle. That's exactly what we have here with Rehan and this allows him to save a very tidy 75,000 a month.
"Fresh ingredients can be expensive though so it probably works out cheaper that I don't cook" - that might well be true but as I always say, when you cook at home, you don't save money but you DO eat better. I'm surprised Rehan doesn't have some sort of kitchen set-up when the rent is over 20,000 a month.
Nice to see someone doing their bit for charity as well.
Natalie
Working in Ratchaburi
Monthly Earnings 48,000 baht
Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?
I work in a government school English program and my salary is 32,000. I also earn 16,000 from private students.
Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?
15,000
Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?
I pay 5,500 baht for a two-bedroom, two-bathroom house in the centre of town.
Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?
Transportation
Hardly anything on transportation. I walk everywhere
Utility bills
My utilities are quite expensive as I run two air conditioners and have cable TV and internet, so an average 3,500 baht per month
Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping
I spend a lot of money on groceries and eating out as I rarely cook. I also shop at a more expensive supermarket so my monthly spend is about 10,000 baht including alcohol
Nightlife and drinking
I rarely go out so 2,000 baht on nightlife per month
Books, computers
Nothing
Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?
Great standard of living and can afford to buy most of the things I want and need without worrying and am able to save each month too
Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?
Best bargains are fruits and vegetables and delicious street food
Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?
To survive 25,000, to live 30,000 and to really enjoy life 50,000.
Phil's analysis and comment
"To survive 25,000, to live 30,000 and to really enjoy life 50,000" I like that and I bet that rings true for any teacher who works in a small town. There is a HUGE difference between earning 30,000 and 40,000. That extra 10K can make such a difference to your lifestyle over the course of a month.
16K a month from private students is a decent income. It would be interesting to delve a bit deeper and find out what natalie charges students per hour. What can the English language learners of Ratchaburi afford to pay?
Dion
Working in Bangkok
Monthly Earnings Around 40,000 baht
Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?
I work at a private school in Bangkok and my salary before tax is 40,000. I also teach private students and that gets me another two to three thousand baht a month.
Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?
I put at least 5,000 baht away each month. I am saving this for travelling or buying big ticket items such as a new computer or camera.
Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?
I live in a small and modern studio apartment that costs me 13,000 a month.
Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?
Transportation
Roughly 1,000 for BTS, 500 for motorbike taxis during the week. In addition, maybe 2 or 3 taxi rides on the weekends.
Utility bills
I pay about 2,500 baht for electricity, water, internet and mobile phone package
Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping
Maybe 100-200 baht on weekdays and 400-500 baht a day on weekends
Nightlife and drinking
I would say about 8,000 a month on nightlife as I normally do something of a night on the weekend that involves drinking.
Books, computers
Nothing.
Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?
It's okay. I had a high standard of living back home. I live quite comfortably but I'm not exactly saving for any international travel as such. It's a good thing I am happy to explore Thailand and I do a weekend away maybe every couple of months.
Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?
Food and taxis are definitely the biggest bargains for me.
Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?
20,000 baht a month to survive, 30,000 to live comfortably. 40,000 to make it worthwhile. Anything over 40,000 would open up options such as saving, travelling or living a bit more lavishly.
Phil's analysis and comment
I really like this survey because for me it showcases a typical Bangkok teacher, earning a typical Bangkok teacher's salary and spending typical amounts of money. This is absolutely what you will be living like if you come to teach in the capital on 40,000 baht, although some might consider 13,000 baht on apartment rental as a bit of a luxury.
When you are earning 40,000 baht a month, 8,000 going on nightlife is the most you can afford. 8,000 going on food is the most you can afford. And when you add together your accommodation, food and entertainment costs, you are lucky to be left with 5,000 baht a month left over and this is exactly what we see in the figures above. And that 60,000 baht a year in savings is used for things such as the odd weekend away in Thailand (where you're probably going to be watching the pennies) It certainly isn't enough money for a trip home as well.
In conclusion - is 40,000 baht a month enough to live on in Bangkok? In my opinion no.
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