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The Burning Question - How are your school admin staff?

Teachers give their opinions on something related to teaching in Thailand

I thought it might be an interesting idea each month or so to feature a teaching in Thailand-related question - and find out what teachers have to say. Welcome to The Burning Question.

This month's question - Does your school have a work permit and visa superhero?

I remember a language school I worked at many years ago and the legend that was Khun Oat. Tall, slim, good-looking and extremely camp, Khun Oat was employed by the school to do two main jobs - and he was brilliant at both of them! To the business, he was worth his weight in Thai gold.

If the language school held an event such as a students open evening or a guest visit from some VIPs. Khun Oat was immediately put in charge of the hosting duties. If balloons needed to be hung from the ceiling and nibbles arranged fastidiously on silver trays, Oat was your man! 

Then cometh the hour, put a microphone in his hand and he become a sort of drag queen come master of ceremonies - but usually without the feathers and sequins.

Oat's other main job - and the reason the foreign teachers loved him so much - was to take care of visa applications and work permits. And he was the work permit and visa application guru.

I never once saw him refer to a checklist but he knew every application form and photocopy necessary in order to make processes go smoothly. But it was at the labour department and immigration offices where Khun Oat came into his own.

I accompanied him a couple of times to these government departments and to watch him interact with Thai officers was to watch a master at work. Everyone loved Khun Oat! He knew the staff he could joke around with, the ones he could flatter and the staff who appreciated 'a box of chocolates' in return for their service. But he never once took his eyes off the objective - to leave with either a work permit book or an appropriate visa stamp.

In the afternoon, with his main jobs accomplished, Khun Oat would mince around the school corridors looking for anyone who needed his assistance. If a teacher had a problem with their apartment building or needed help communicating with a member of the Thai staff, Oat was the go-to guy. 

The only time the work stopped was if Oat was walking past a TV and they played the latest pop video from one of his favourite boy bands. Oat would spend the next three minutes practicing his elaborate dance moves in readiness for a big Saturday night out in Boys Town.

I don't know what became of him but I'm sure he's been a success in whatever career path he eventually chose. 

So does your school or agency have a Khun Oat? - someone who takes away all those red tape headaches? Or is your place of employment generally clueless about immigration / ministry of labor procedures and the teachers are left to fight for themselves? Do you feel your employer could do better in this department? Tell us your situation.

I've been doing all the compiling and filing of my own documents for 4 years at the same school. It's a real pain in the ass but it is so much better to do it on your own and to be familiar with the processes - and make sure that I am working legally here. (Aynaht)

The big Ramkhamhaeng agency that I work for has 'Mister Pii' and I think he's the best one out there. The agency has over 230 employees and he gets the job done! He even knows all of the teachers by name. (Stephanie)

Yes, at my agency we have a member of staff called Fon and she specializes in all this stuff.  She got my work permit and visa for me. Without her my life would be tougher in Thailand. (Tanmay)

We have a wonderful woman working at my school who is very good and getting all of us foreigners legal. Unfortunately the new director is thinking of switching to an agency, taking all that out of her hands. (Harry)

My company not only has a great Thai staff person in charge of this sort of thing but also employs a lawyer to make everything so much easier. I'm lucky! (Monique)

The private school I used to work for had someone who used to work for immigration doing that. They never had a problem until she went on maternity leave and suddenly all the teachers were having problems with their visas. (Daniel)

My school does a great job of taking care of it for 30 foreign teachers! (Tracy)


Hum... promised a visa, work permit and no problems...
3 weeks nothing happened and my Visa was running out
I had to drive to Bangkok myself to get my teachers certificate...
Had to get my own visa, ended u driving to Nong Khai myself.
and the work permit was a joke...I paid for it!
Useless government school with no ethics...never again.

By Sean, Kalasin (20th March 2015)

I am sure that you meant to say "extension of stay based on employment" not "visa".

By lloyd, Bangkok (18th March 2015)

We have a couple of staff members who are quite good about getting our documents sorted for us, and even help out and do our 90 day reports. For the our visa renewals, they invited immigration to come visit our school for a couple of hours on a Saturday. Done and sorted! =)

By Aaron, Bangkok (18th March 2015)

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