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You can't fail students in Thailand

This was the first mid-term exam at one of the more famous schools in Bangkok. We prepared the questions, the answer keys and gave everything to the Thai administrators. After the exams were over, we received computer printouts of the exam results. The maximum score was 20 points. More than 60% of the students had 0-10 points, and the Thais told us that they all had to get a minimum of 10 points. And we had to correct the scores manually. So a student who got 3 points (out of 20) suddenly had 10 points. A student who had 7 points (out of 20) suddenly had 10 points. The only exceptions were those students who did not take the exam at all. They actually got 0 points.

Why am I mentioning this? Well, it doesn't matter how inflated your ego is, it doesn't matter if you like Filipino teachers, native speakers, Europeans, whatever. In the end, we're all stuck in the same circus anyway, and we're all exactly the same clowns. And no, don't kid yourself that "in my school you can fail students". Yeah, yeah, homie. If you believe in something like that, you must be an idiot. This also explains why Thai schools are riddled with corruption and the agencies do whatever they want: in fact, any education here is of no consequence at all and teachers do nothing but act as kindergarten teachers and warm bodies in the classroom.

If you want to be a real teacher, look for another country.

Bobby


Get that chip off your shoulder

Get that chip off your shoulder

I have just read a rather venomous and frankly racist anti-white post on here from 'Marisol', whom I suspect is Filipino, but I could be wrong.
https://www.ajarn.com/ajarn-street/postbox/native-english-burger-flipers-nebf

He/she seems to be claiming that men from the UK/USA on 30-40k in Thailand are no more than right-wing, alcoholic 'burger flippers' in their own countries.

Here's the thing. To teach in Thailand now it is pretty much impossible (post waiver) without a degree in education. Like the one this 'burger flipper' from the UK has.

The days of schools just hiring any old white face without so much as finishing high school education are long, long gone. And that is a good thing, of course.

One detects yet another 'chip on the shoulder' Filipino. I work with many. I get on well with a few, but most (as in pretty much all of them in my experience) have a very poor level of written English. One of my duties is to check and edit their tests and worksheets before they print them. This is because they were almost always littered with poor spelling and grammar before the Head implemented this.

I do know one Filipino who earned the 70k we 'burger flippers' got at my school because his English was native level (he was born and educated in the USA to Filipino parents).

You're not paid less because 'muh racism', you're paid less because your English isn't good enough. Remember, your level of English is the key part of your teaching job in Thailand.

You passed your TOEFL? Great! Could you pass A-level English or write a grammatically perfect 15,000 word dissertation in the English language?

Thought not. Quite a few of us have, you know?

Now, get that big, fat, anti-white chip of yours off your shoulder.

Not a burger flipper


I'll find a place that values my experience

I've dedicated my life to teaching, honing my skills, and mastering the art of education. But what's holding me back? Age. Can you believe it?

Thailand, a country I've dreamed of teaching in, has shut its doors because apparently, I don't fit their preferred age bracket. "Under 55," they say. As if my years of experience mean nothing.

I'm not just a number. I'm a passionate educator with a wealth of knowledge and a burning desire to share it. But they'd rather favor youth over experience. It's frustrating, infuriating even.

But you know what? I refuse to be defined by their narrow-mindedness. I won't let their age bias deter me. I'll find a place where my expertise is valued, where my passion for teaching English isn't overshadowed by some arbitrary number.

Thailand's loss. I'll take my dedication, my expertise, and my enthusiasm elsewhere—somewhere that appreciates what I bring to the table. They're missing out on someone who could have made a real difference. But I'll find a place that recognizes the value of experience and passion, regardless of age.

Cliff


It's not worth it if you're not a native speaker

It's not worth it if you're not a native speaker

If you are a native speaker, then you can do a teaching license and start working for a reasonable salary (80,000 baht and more). If you are not a native speaker, then you will always be at the same level of earning and you have minimal chances to exceed 40,000 - 45,000 baht per month. If at some point you start earning more, the school will find it more profitable to find a new teacher. You will only lose the best years of your life. Of course, dozens of teachers from the Philippines will disagree with me, but they have close proximity to their families, airline tickets are cheap, and they have minimal requirements (their country is still at a very low level of development = they lose nothing).

Tomasso


Buffalo English is looking for an NES teacher

I've been looking for a new teaching job for the past two months. I was planning to get hired directly by a school, but having received no replies to my emails (probably bad timing, October-November), I decided to contact the numerous agencies that seemed to have plenty of jobs available ASAP. Due to your lack of communication and difficulties in reading and understanding messages and texts, and your laziness, I'd like to ask agents and recruiters, "Don't you like money? Do you like money? Do you want to make money?" Isn't that the reason you're in this recruitment business? If yes, then why are you wasting time, e.g. taking hours and days to arrange an interview or a phone call with you, or asking same questions multiple times, or asking to send a CV which is already attached to the email? Aren't you looking for a teacher to start ASAP? You need to place a foreigner in a school, and I need a job, so get your a** off the couch and put it to work. Thai schools/agencies have a shortage of teachers, so landing a job should have been an easy task, but I guess I was wrong about it.

Winston


Know your audience!

Know your audience!

One pillar of success in the classroom, is knowing your audience. While most here can agree that the typical ESL/EFL classroom in Thailand is not going to be described as a content-rich Liberal Arts environment, the opportunity to utilize the classroom resemble something similar to that of a Seinfeld episode: making something out of nothing.

Very few ("very" being the operative word) have the opportunity to work their craft so that Thai students can explore, ruminate on and learn the conditions and virtues of the human experience. While Mr. Beam claims he is missing the learning targets, in which case, I think he is purposely sandbagging, there is plenty there to work with and what is then sustained, can be the next step in promoting student efficacy ("scaffolding", anyone?).

We all know the concept of working both inside and outside "the box". The typical EFL/ESL classroom is the box. The teacher is the colored dot trying to operate within. It seems to me, in order to create more room for learning opportunities, the smaller the dot is, the more space there is to move about within those parameters.

While the boo-birds will certainly scoff, do ideas on how to mold the classroom into something resembling an active, motivating and communicative learning environment break one's leg or rob one's pocket? One teacher's ideas may not work well in a stuffy dungeon (which they are needed most) but that does not constitute them as weak, or low-level. Remember: the teacher is simply the modeling messenger, while the students (and parents) bare the burden of responsibility for putting the message(s) into practice (no amount of "face saving" can escape that universal truth). Now, just think of the possibilities if that were to happen: Thai students actually doing a bit of homework, practicing what was learned on their own. Should that ever be the case, the boo-birds would be less relevant.

Sharing ideas is a necessity for those wanting to enhance their craft. Moreover, learning any foreign language involves both deductive and inductive thinking. Games can be a great way pathway.

Knox


The bloggers are lying about the costs

The bloggers are lying about the costs

I taught in Bangkok in 2019. It was a great experience but I didn't think too much of the financial aspect. I had 3,000 USD (I'm American) in my bank account before I came. When I left, I had 1,000 USD left. Before I came, one blogger wrote that you will do fine with 1,000 USD in the bank. Totally wrong.

What most travel bloggers dont talk about is the cost to be legally working in Thailand. Most schools don't pay the cost. Visiting immigration, border runs, transportation cost, picture fees, application fees, police clearance fees, work permit fees, etc... If you get scammed by your school and decide to stay in Thailand, you have even more additional costs. You have to find a hotel/hostel and stay for a few weeks to a few months and you're not getting paid for a few months while you find another job. If you can't find a job in 30 days, you have to do another visa run which is an additional cost. These costs mount up. I don't regret living in Bangkok but there are hundreds of costs you won't find out until later, and they can make and break you.

Tony


Don't blame Thais for your failed relationships

During my time in Thailand, I witnessed many people become seduced with the country and its people. In particular, men often fell deeply in love and lust with the young Thai damsels. Women often fell for the Alpha Thais - the fit, happy Muay Thai fighters. Most of these relationships ended through some sort of manipulative and dramatic event, with the expat often complaining about "dishonest" and "deceptive" Thais who only see them as ATMs or sex toys. I lived this reality and mindset for most of my time there, even though I was never scammed by a woman, I bought into this victim mentality.

Here's my quick point: people will take advantage of weakness no matter where they are from. If you are weak and naive enough to try to buy someone's love through gifts and promises, that is your problem, not theirs. People, particularly women, will test your strength. If they find a weak spot in you that makes you vulnerable to others, she will not have confidence in you as a man. She could be Thai, white, blue, whatever.

This principle of strength is the same as it is in the classroom. Your students will not follow you if you try to pander to them through kindness. They will tolerate you and follow their own needs until the bell rings.

coachbb

Glued to smartphones

Glued to smartphones

Smartphones have now become a common tool for everyone. They have become a necessity already. I often ask my students and friends if they can last a day without their smartphones, and obviously, the answer is no. For people who can successfully control their desire to use smartphones and endlessly scroll through their Instagrams and Facebook accounts, it is not a big concern. Unfortunately, a lot of people do not consciously manage their screen time. This has become a big concern for many teachers in Thailand.

I have been here in Thailand for almost six years now. On my first day in school, I observed that Thai schools don't particularly prohibit bringing smartphones in the class. At first, I thought it was because the smartphones could be used as an aid to teaching and learning, which of course we could, but sadly it was not for that. Most students would just use smartphones as they wish even if their teacher is there discussing the lessons. It is quite challenging for foreign teachers to implement a no-phone policy since many Thai teachers don't implement this. This has become a great concern particularly in government schools where teachers are tired of doing endless documents for submission, compliance and promotions.

Try browsing Tiktok or Instagram's Reels and you will see many clips from students who are in the classrooms and are simply using their phones, sometimes, including even their teachers in their posts. Sadly, this is the case from grade school to university levels. How can these kids develop the skills they need to function in the future? Thailand should address this problem ASAP or they will live in a future where kids don't really care anymore about anything but their phones.

Ben


Things to consider with agencies

Things to consider with agencies

In my opinion, working for an agency is one of the worse things that can happen to a teacher in Thailand. Unfortunately, many schools in Bangkok are staffed by agencies. Here are some things you should keep in mind before you decide to work for an agency:

1. Agencies charge a minimum of 30% of your earnings. In some cases it is as much as 50% or more. If the school pays 60,000 baht per month, you may get 35,000 baht.

2. Schools pay for the whole school year, so if the agency offers a 9, 10 or 11 month contract, it actually takes even more of your money. If you don't get paid for semester breaks, it means someone took your money.

3. Probationary period can be a total sham. It takes a maximum of 2-3 weeks to organize the documents needed for a Non-B visa, not 3 months. Also, you should get a "work permit" as soon as possible, not after a few months. Working on a tourist visa or visa exemption is illegal.

4. You are just a warm body in the classroom. In case of any problems the agency will always side with the school and not you. In case of any problems with visas etc. the agency will always say that it is your fault.

5. Some agencies provide educational materials (e.g. PowerPoints), but most often they are of low quality, with many errors.

6. Many times you will be lied to by agencies. Their goal is only profit and that you quietly make hours, not your welfare. Some agencies portray themselves as "cool" and "trendy," but they too don't give a damn about you.

Do your best not to have to work for the agency. Good luck!

Papaya


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