Every new arrival wants to know if they can survive or live well in Thailand on X thousand baht a month?

It's a difficult question because each person has different needs. However, the following surveys and figures are from teachers actually working here! How much do they earn and what do they spend their money on?. And after each case study, I've added comments of my own.

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Trebek

Working in Sakon Nakhon

Monthly Earnings 30,000 baht a month

Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?

My salary from the university is 20,000 but I get a housing allowance of 8,000 and I make another 2,000 from extra work.

Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?

4,000 baht

Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?

I pay 4,500 baht a month for a hotel room with air-conditioning.

Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?

Transportation

I have my own motorcycle and gas, repairs etc probably average out at about 2,500 baht a month.

Utility bills

Bills are included in the 4,500 baht hotel room rental.

Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping

Don't really know but not that much.

Nightlife and drinking

I mainly drink with the locals. 4,000 baht a month.

Books, computers

1,000 baht

Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?

I love the countryside. I don't require falang company all that much so I avoid the expat bars. I enjoy hanging out with Thais - and no I cannot speak much of the language.

Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?

Small street restaurants, bike rental, accommodation and bus fares to other nearby cities.

Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?

I could do it on 15,000 baht a month if I got rid of the bike, lived in a cheaper place, partied less, stopped spending 200 baht per week on pizza, no more coffee shops. I could easily live on 15,000 in fact. Issan is a bargain.

Phil's analysis and comment

I think this is one of the best examples we've had in our cost of living section of 'going native'. A 30,000 baht salary, nights out with the locals, a small hotel room, a motorcycle and probably a relatively low food budget.

Trebek could survive on 15,000 baht a month but the question is would you want to? That sort of lifestyle is just not sustainable over a long period of time. Even 30,000 baht a month - double his 'survival wage' - only affords him a modest living. 

However, Trebek clearly enjoys being out in the countryside and mixing with the locals over a few beers. I guess you enjoy it while it lasts.

 


James

Working in Bangkok

Monthly Earnings 70,000 - 80,000

Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?

I work at a private school in Bangkok and my salary after tax is 43,000. I can add another 27 - 38,000 baht a month from teaching private students about 7 hours a week.

Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?

20,000

Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?

I pay 14,000 baht a month for a one-bedroom condo.

Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?

Transportation

3,000 baht

Utility bills

Because I have a wife and baby at home all day, the air-con is constantly running so the bill is about 3,000 a month.

Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping

At least 18,000 Baht. I have to add I've never believed the food bills people put up on these surveys. Are they really keeping track? By my logic even if you only eat street food you would spend 200 Baht per day (6k month at least and that's not even including a Cornetto from 7-11) and then I see people putting 3,000 a month. What are (or aren't) they eating?? Anyway, Saturday I buy 600 baht sushi and 2 bottles of "wine" from Tops (my weekly "treat") so that's my big dining expense.

Nightlife and drinking

At 7pm the baby has a bath, I do the dishes then go for a swim. After this I'll watch a few YouTube videos then bed.

Books, computers

Nothing

Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?

It's a good life but I don't feel fully relaxed yet. That's why I used a lot of savings to study for a Master's degree. Looking to the future and all.

Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?

Chinese made badminton rackets: 94 Baht for two and made from metal. I couldn't believe it. Was the best 37 minutes spent playing badminton ever.

Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?

I'd say 50,000 a month. And can we put a ban on "living like a Thai" being the lowest bar. What does that even mean? The Thais around where I live drive Mercs. I bet they look at me and think, "I'm glad I don't have to live like a farang"

Phil's analysis and comment

Thank you James, you made me laugh there.

But seriously, with a wife and baby at home, James is an example of a teacher who really depends on the income from private students rather than seeing them as just a bit of extra pocket money. And 27,000 baht a month plus from out of hours tuition is not to be sniffed at. By my reckoning, James is probably charging in the region of 1,000 baht an hour for his services (possibly even more).

That brings me to a very common question from teachers looking to go down the private teaching route - 'how much should I charge?' Many teachers get uncomfortable with setting an hourly price but I believe your free time is the most precious commodity of all. When I first started teaching private students at home, I was charging 400-500 baht an hour for a one-to-one lesson but quickly realised that I could make at least double that for groups of two or three - and very often it's far easier to teach a small group than just one student. The overheads are the same save for maybe a bit of extra photocopying. 


We would love to get your cost of living surveys and you can do so by filling in the on-line form. Tell us about your lifestyle!

Many teachers unfortunately fill in the form and just provide a list of figures and no back story. It's those glimpses into a teacher's lifestyle that make these surveys interesting and enjoyable. Many thanks for your contributions.


Jane

Working in Bangkok

Monthly Earnings 26,000

Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?

I work at a language clinic and I earn 26,000 baht a month with a 3% tax deduction on that full-time salary. I don't have any part time jobs yet.

Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?

I can save at least 8,000 baht a month excluding the money I send back to my family in the Philippines.

Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?

I rent a bachelor type studio for 3,500 baht a month (fridge/ air-con included) with electricity and water bills I pay at the most 4,500 baht including the rent.

Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?

Transportation

I use the motorcycle for 10 baht, bus for 6.50 baht (use the red old buses if you don't mind it not having a/c. if you're lucky you might be riding the free red buses and songtaew 7 baht. One month total of 1,815 baht. Sometimes when I am in a hurry I use the air-conditioned bus for 13 baht.

Utility bills

I bundle it in with the rent as mentioned above.

Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping

My groceries come to about 2,000-3,000 a month plus 1,500 baht for food allowance. I limit my spending to 50 baht a day for food at work

Nightlife and drinking

I just bike around the markets buying 20 baht drinks or snacks and it won't cost me more than a 100 baht

Books, computers

I use the computer at work for everything that I need including information for lectures. I can find almost everything in Google. We do have our own books at school. I sometimes download e-books on my ipad and that costs nothing.

Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?

It is better compared to the life I had in the Philippines. Life here is easy as long as you know where you spend your money.

Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?

Food, without a doubt.

Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?

Survive? Even the highest paid teachers here can't survive if they don't budget their money. If you find yourself saying to yourself you can't afford to save money right now, you are lying to yourself. Most of us started with the basic salary and then moved to another company with higher salary. It still wasn't enough because we still keep on moving/changing jobs. I'd say you can either survive or live a nice life depending on how you spend your money.

Phil's analysis and comment

I think many Western teachers (me included) just don't know how Filipinos survive on the money they earn, especially if - as many do - they are sending money back to help families in The Philippines. 

Limiting your daily food budget to 50 baht and riding the non-airconditioned bus to keep costs down certainly won't be many people's idea of a good time but if it still means that life here is better than life back in the homeland, who am I to argue? 

On the topic of Filipino teachers working in Thailand, Benito Vacio wrote a couple of blogs for Ajarn dot com before he returned to The Philippines last year. He had noticed many Filipino teachers had made the decision to reurn home. Was the love affair with Thailand coming to an end? 


Robert

Working in Bangkok

Monthly Earnings 80,000 - 90,000

Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?

I typically earn between 80,000-90,000 baht a month from my job at an international school. My full-time salary is 80,000 and I sometimes make extra money teaching university classes, camps, or writing exams/course content.

Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?

I usually save about 30,000 baht a month, but sometimes more.

Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?

I pay 12,000 for a new 36 square meter condo.

Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?

Transportation

Unless I am going out for drinks I typically drive my 150cc motorcycle, which saves me a lot of money on transportation. I spend about 150 baht a week on gas. Overall, I'd say I end up spending about 1,500-2,000 a month on transportation depending if I have to fix an issue with the bike and how often I go out for drinks (which isn't all that often)

Utility bills

Since I live in a condo, my utility bills are typically pretty low. I spend about 3,000 for water, electricity and garbage (running the aircon whenever I am home) and then my phone bill is about 550 baht a month and then another 500 baht for wifi.

Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping

I spend about 10,000 baht a month on food. Most of my meals come from local food stalls and will be between 50-70 baht. Every now and then I will splurge on a hamburger, pizza, or take the missus out for a nice dinner.

Nightlife and drinking

The longer I stay in Thailand the lower my nightlife spending gets. A night out can run anywhere from 1,000-2,000 baht, but nowadays I typically prefer to avoid the club scenes and stick to local bars or chilling at a friends party, which is a lot better on the wallet. Overall, I'd say I spend about 5,000 baht a month on nightlife

Books, computers

I read at least one book a month, to keep the mind in shape, and so spend about 400-600 baht depending if I pick up a knock off on Khaosan or one at Kinokuniya.

Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?

I have a very comfortable standard of living. Money is never an issue, and I can go on awesome vacations anytime I want.

Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?

Food, clothing, transportation, and rent. Also, if I were back home in Seattle I'd pay 3x as much for something the same size in an equivalent part of town.

Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?

When I first moved here I made 32,000 month for 6 months through an agency at a Thai government school. I think it would be pretty hard to survive on much less than that, especially if you hope to finance a trip home every year or two.

Phil's analysis and comment

Not much I can add to a pretty solid set of figures from Robert. 80-90K is always going to get you a very comfortable lifestyle in Bangkok and here's the proof. Robert is a man with absolutely no money worries. Enough said!


William

Working in Hua Hin

Monthly Earnings 50,000+

Q1. How much do you earn from teaching per month?

I work at a language school and TEFL center in Hua Hin. My base salary is 50,000 baht but I can bump that up by 5-10K a month with commissions plus maybe more for bonuses and doing teacher training camps.

Q2. How much of that can you realistically save per month?

10-15K

Q3. How much do you pay for your accommodation and what do you live in exactly (house, apartment, condo)?

10,000 baht. I live in a spacious one-bedroom condo. One big room that acts as a bedroom and dining/living room, small kitchen, balcony for hanging clothes and a pretty nice bathroom. It's on the 6th floor with a nice view of the coastline, a great pool and small but adequate gym with treadmills, weights and a bench. The best part of it all is its convenience as well as how new and in order everything is compared to a lot of accommodation one can reside in in Thailand.

Q4. What do you spend a month on the following things?

Transportation

I bought a slightly used Honda Wave (manual gear) for 25k when I moved here. It's the most economical thing to do. I spend about 400 baht/month on gas, I would guess. Hardly every pay for any other transportation. I make a trip to Bangkok maybe once a month, so add another 500 baht/month

Utility bills

Utilities usually come to about 1,200 baht/month. I'm not stingy with the air con

Food - both restaurants and supermarket shopping

I don't drink really, so my hedonism is spent on food. 10-15,000 for all food, both cooking at home and eating out. I am a foodie, so I don't skimp. I love Thai food, but also love sushi, pizza, Indian, barbecue spots like Sukishi and Shabu places like Shabushi, you name it I eat it

Nightlife and drinking

Next to nil. I have a girlfriend so what's the point? Maybe 1,000 baht/month maximum

Books, computers

I have a computer which I bought for $300 back in The States more than a year ago. Hardly ever have to spend anything to maintain it. I just get books from friends or exchange or from back home

Q5. How would you summarize your standard of living in one sentence?

My standard of living is quite nice. I am not stingy or too worried on a day to day basis, but make a conscious effort to try to save 15,000 a month and because of that I have managed to put about 200,000k in my savings account over the span of 13 months since moving to Hua Hin

Q6. What do you consider to be a real 'bargain' here?

Rentals, compared to The West. I can only imagine how much rent would be for a condo less than 200 meters from the beach back in The States. A lot of other things, too, but most are obvious. I think phone bills are worth mentioning. I pay 350 baht/month for a package that gives me 200 minutes a month and unlimited 3G. That would be like 70 dollars, or 2,000 baht back home.

Q7. In your opinion, how much money does anyone need to earn here in order to survive?

Survive is such a relative term, based on people's background and personality and overall willingness to live like a Thai rather than a farang. 15,000 to actually survive: live in a 3,000 baht dingy apartment with no air-con, use a "burner" (for anyone who has watched The Wire) cellphone, and eat Mama noodles at least five times a week. Don't even think about Sizzler salad buffets or cappuccinos at a cozy cafe.

Phil's analysis and comment

I can think of a lot worse places to live and teach than Hua Hin - especially if your condo is 200 metres from the beach! William really does sound like a guy who's hit it right.

William also had this to say on the question of 'how would you summarize your standard of living?'

"I live better here than I would back in The States, where I would be a chef or I-dunno-what, working 60 hours a week and probably just having enough to pay my 1,000$ rent for a small apartment deep on the East side of Portland, Oregon, where every hipster in America wants to live and has thus blown up exponentially in price.

Sorry, a bit off topic. The point is, my standard of living here is comfortable. I eat out and cook nice meals, live in a nice condo overlooking the coast, and swim in my pool and cruise along the coast on Saturdays and Sundays. I don't have to spend extra time tutoring private students and all that. I like my schedule and value my free time, work hard during the week and relax and have fun on weekends. This allotment of my time defines my standard of living more than anything" 


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