Bangkok Phil

A shout out for EVA Air

Their premium economy class offering to Europe was actually very good


Last month, on my annual trip back to England, I got to fly with EVA Air for the very first time. I had been meaning to try Taiwan's national airline for quite a while and I'm finally glad I got the opportunity. I thought they were superb!

The only reason I've shied away from using EVA Air in the past is because they don't fly a route from Bangkok to my hometown of Birmingham, England. You basically have a choice of flying to London Heathrow or Amsterdam Schiphol and then making onward travel plans from there.

However, with EVA Air's ‘premium economy' class seat (which gets excellent reviews on the internet) available for a good price, I decided to book the journey home in two stages and allow for a one-night layover in The Netherlands.

55,000 baht all in

For the number crunchers out there, the flight to Amsterdam was 42,000 baht return, one night at an airport hotel was 7,000 baht and the following morning, relaxed and refreshed, I caught the KLM city hopper, which takes 50 minutes to fly from Amsterdam to Birmingham. The KLM return ticket added another 6,000 baht to the bill.

So I did the whole journey (including a very nice hotel room and a premium economy seat on the long haul leg) for 55,000 baht. I think that was a pretty good deal.

Middle East nightmares

For many years I used The Middle Eastern carriers such as Emirates Airlines or Qatar Airways but as I've got older, my tolerance for those Middle Eastern airports has all but vanished. I just find Dubai Airport to be Hell on earth. From the 30-minute magical mystery tour from plane to terminal by shuttle bus - to the chaotic security check manned by grumpy, surly staff - to the non-existent free wi-fi signal. There isn't a single aspect of a Dubai layover that I enjoy.

And as my loathing for Dubai Airport increased over the years, the entire journey home began to feel like taking two ‘long haul flights', especially when you are squeezed into cattle class for the duration (neither Emirates or Qatar has a premium economy option by the way)

The six hours from Bangkok to Dubai I could just about deal with, but after three hours on the ground at the world's biggest duty-free shop (and that's all Dubai Airport is) and with fatigue and jet lag starting to kick in - that seven MORE hours on to Birmingham begins to feel like an awful long time to be in the air.

So what about EVA Air itself? Why was I so impressed?

Well for starters I would choose the timing. Midday departures from Bangkok Airport mean far less stress on body and soul compared to the ungodly, early-hour-of-the-morning take-off slots that the Middle Eastern airlines seem to favor. In addition, you're flying directly to Amsterdam. Yes, I know eleven hours is a long time to be sat on a plane but give me that over the thirteen-hour Bangkok-Dubai-Birmingham endurance test any day of the week.

Feeling special

EVA Air has a designated check-in row for premium economy passengers and not all premium class airlines offer this. It's a gesture that's always much appreciated and of course you board and disembark the aircraft ahead of those flying economy class. These are all ‘little things' that make the ordeal of a long haul flight less stressful and worth the extra cost of the ticket I feel. Also baggage allowance is a very generous 30 kilograms for those flying premium economy.

I guess it's nearly always the staff that determines whether a business is successful or not and I can't say enough kind words about the EVA Air flight crew. The stewardesses were the friendliest I'd ever encountered (not to mention the most attractive) and nothing was too much trouble when it came to making sure passengers were comfortable.

One of my biggest gripes on long haul flights has always been the lack of refreshments coming round. Not so with EVA Air. Towards the end of the flight I actually found myself saying "no! no more water and apple juice please!" as the stewardesses did another circuit with trays full of drinks. It's not often that happens in these days of commercial aviation cost-cutting.

But at the end of the day, it's all about two things - the comfort of the seat and the legroom in front of you. Nothing else matters on a long haul flight! Those are the reasons why I've paid 30-50% more than the price of an economy class seat.

What, no amenity kit!

I chuckle when I read many of the online flight reviews that go into detail about the amenities kit, the in-flight food and the on-board entertainment system. I couldn't give a toss about any of that stuff quite frankly and I'm amazed that other fliers do.

If the eye mask doesn't quite block out all the light or there isn't any toothpaste, I will survive. And surely no one on a long-haul flight is expecting a five-star dining experience. It's food. It's edible. Get it down you. Meals on flights are merely a convenient distraction and a way to pass half an hour. And as for the entertainment system, I'll pass. I've got a selection of my favorite movies, half a dozen game apps along with a hundred or so music albums all loaded onto my smartphone. That's all my entertainment right there. The screen in the seatback in front of me is purely for displaying the flight path and to let me know when we've finally entered European air space.

I'm not going to bore you with details about the inches of seat pitch because I never had a tape measure handy but let's just say that even as a six-footer, I had plenty of room. I didn't lose the feeling in my legs once on the whole flight! Of course it does help immeasurably if the seat next to you is empty, as it was on both my outgoing and incoming flights.

So two thumbs up for EVA Air. If you're looking to fly back to Europe and EVA premium economy is a viable option, give it a try because I don't think you'll be disappointed. The secret with flying any premium economy class airline is not to set your expectations too high. Premium economy is not ‘business class lite'. It's not a halfway house between those passengers rammed into cattle class and those snoozing peacefully at the front of the aircraft. It's nowhere near.

I made the mistake of setting my expectations too high last year when I tried out Lufthansa's premium economy offering. Thanks to a computer error in the Lufthansa system (it's a long story) I ended up paying 70% more than the cost of an economy class seat. And Lufthansa's premium economy was nowhere near 70% better.




Comments

I'm with you, leg-room and seat comfort priorities on long-haul legs. Rarely even use the in-flight entertainment systems. EVA Air is a top 10 airline and offers excellent service IMHO. Notice fares just under $1600 CAD for YVR-TPE-BKK return at the moment in PE class.

By David Tucker, Udon Thani (28th November 2017)

Can I book premium economy and pay to be upgraded to Business Class at the airport if available? Does Eva Air do this if they have remaining Business Class seats?

By Pristin, Singapore (10th July 2017)

Ive paid roughly 25k to fly with EVA in Economy in November, which Ive done before. EVA are good, direct a big plus, not in Sinagpore's class, but your thoughts on that option are correct. I must ask thought, were you impressed with EVA, or with the Premium Economy?

The main reason is that 30k buys you a lot here,. A family long weekend at the beach near Bkk can be had for under 10k , so thats 3 weekends away on the beach with my son. 3 weekends of lifetime memories. Or 15 rounds of golf. Versus being a little bit uncomfortable for 12 hours its not a tough call for me.

By Rob, Bangkok (28th October 2016)

"Singapore Airlines is now flying to Birmingham. They're really superb!"

Yes they do and yes they are,
However from Bangkok you have to fly the two hours to Singapore first and then transit in Singapore for another couple of hours. So four hours into the journey and you're geographically further away than when you started. Plus you still have to change planes in Amsterdam, Plus I don't think they offer premium economy. I'll stick with EVA.

By Phil, Samut Prakarn (27th October 2016)

Singapore Airlines is now flying to Birmingham. They're really superb!

By Tim, Bangkok (27th October 2016)

Phil, your review is quite common for BR (that's EVA Air's 2-character carrier ID) and in their PE cabin.

I've flown several carriers' PE-types cabins and found that the overall service- be that hard product or soft side service - can really vary from carrier to carrier.. but I attribute this to a large degree to the realization that the notion of a true PE cabin is still a new(er) concept for most major network carriers and, as such, it's still a somewhat work-in-progress as they find how it's going to figure in the long run.

The other reason I like BR to-from BKK is that's it's a full non-hub base (focus city) which means in BKK they a full compliment of ground support staff (both direct employees as well as contract staff supplemented), a cabin crew base (a fairly large Thai national contingent) as well line maintainence.

This means that IF there is some kind of issue in BKK, there's more assets and resources to get it fixed than you might find with carriers who operate a once-daily or less, schedule and theefore contract out nearly all airport ops.

Given long haul flights commonly have issues like crew legality time, downline regional or domestic connections, etc, being able to keep to schedule or reduce delays is a plus on my book.

I fly them to/from the US and one good thing about BR is (like you noted) they tend to have late, late night US departure times, which means an early AM arrival in Taipei - and therefore the ability to make virtually any same-day onward connection out of TPE, be that regional or other long-haul.

There're still somewhat of a "who?" name, only because TPE is dwarfed by other regional ports like NRT, HKG and ICN, who handle far more traffic via their respective national carriers.. and compared to carriers like Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific etc, EVA is still a somewhat new airline having started in early 1989 and having a smaller network footprint in key and high visibility markets like North America and Euro zone.

By Michael, Bangkok (27th October 2016)

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